今日话题
这年头,许多妹子活得都像个女汉子。
能挣钱花钱文艺酷炫小清新,也能换灯泡扛纯净水做饭修电脑打蟑螂……
一个人活出了千军万马的气势。
和亚洲许多国家的女性相比,中国的姑娘们算是挺独立的一拨了。
尤其是一线城市的不少妹子,即使算不上战斗力破表,但该有的经历与见识都还是有的,活得也都挺充实。
结果某天,主页君突然在国外论坛上看到了这么个帖子:
▲“为啥中国20几岁的妹子都这么幼稚?”
据显示,发帖的是个瑞典人。这枚瑞典小哥是这样吐槽的——
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Why are girls so to girls at the same age from and North ? One I heard is that they had to study so hard all day long and didn't get a to play as .
为啥和欧美的同龄妹子比起来,中国妹子这么幼稚啊?我听说,是因为中国的乖宝宝们从小就得好好学习,没办法像小孩一样愉快玩耍,所以长大了要补回来?
……这话说的,从结论到理由都挺奇怪就是了。
然而没想到,底下附和他的人还挺不少??
有说因为东亚人的审美里有“萌萌哒”的幼齿情节……
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Some of it is just East Asian pop , I think. If I'm not , it kind of with the whole thing in Japan and other have their own .
貌似因为东亚的某种流行文化吧~日本就有“卡哇伊”之类的爱好,然后其他国家也纷纷发展出了自己“萌”文化。人家就好这口。
有说中国的独生子女都被宠坏了,所以很幼稚……
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of or .
估计很多中国妹子有公主病吧?
, the most of young in China are the of that grew up in some of the worst China had seen in a long time, by great and , and then .
基本上呢,中国最近的这代年轻人,他们父母都经历过艰难时期的苦日子。然后前人栽树后人乘凉咯,到了他们出生的时候,中国已经繁荣发展了起来,这些孩子从小就衣食无忧了。
This in such a short time, with the 1 child , a whole to grow up as ultra brats--never for . Also keep in mind the of China has been group and being very isn't like in the west.
再加上啊,他们这一代大多是独生子女,从小到大被父母宠得一塌糊涂,要啥有啥,你说人家还有什么奋斗的动力?更何况,中国的文化里挺重视家庭和集体的幼稚的拼音,你要是活得太独立,人家还未必待见你。
还有说这是中国传统文化的原因,造成女性性格的弱化……
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, this. roles ( by ) are still , and "cute" is often a of this in times. In this sense, it's about one's place in (hence the low value of ), and for women, it is to be and needy.
我觉着是酱的:在中国啊,受儒家思想影响,传统性别角色的刻板印象还是挺普遍的,加上现在的“可爱”文化也很有市场咯。而对于女性来说,社会对于她们的角色定位就是顺从和依赖男人的。个性独立的姑娘反倒不被看好了。
更有不少当场吐槽中国妹子太幼稚的……
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It's a good point that it is to the non- of these girls. When I see guys with a girl like this like a and see her upset and to cry or right on the , I if this is and to guys.
真的,中国妹子真是太不独立了。有时会看到中国汉子和妹子走在街上,妹子就像个包袱一样跟在汉子后面,甚至还当街哭兮兮,简直了……这种妹子在中国很常见吗?中国汉子真的好这口吗??
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I it is. I think what you are is 撒娇 () which to "act like a whiny, child to get what you want" and a lot of men like it as it them to be and feel by the woman.
楼上的,中国汉子可能真的好这口。你看到妹子苦兮兮的样子,可能是她们在“撒娇”吧?呃撒娇这词是啥意思呢……就是做出那种被宠上天的熊孩子的样子,为达到目的各种一哭二闹三上吊。但偏偏很多男人就吃这套啊,因为这样感觉自己在妹子面前很man啊~很能依靠啊~
这位提到中文词还友情附带拼音(连音标的标注了),真是不容易
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I've met grad , their MBA who wear Hello kitty , have an all in hello kitty, do but suck their thumb and pout at every "". I agree that it . I don't know how .
我也看到过许多中国学生,都读MBA(工商管理硕士)了还穿着Kitty猫的衣服,一屋子里也全是Kitty猫幼稚的拼音,整天没事就吮手指,碰到芝麻大点儿的事也要噘嘴装嫩发嗲……有些中国妹子确实很幼稚啊,虽然不造这样的情况普不普遍就是了。
好吧……上面这群老外说的许多我都不赞同,我也没见过喜欢噘嘴吮手指的姑娘(未成年除外)。
但是,毕竟中国人口太多,什么类型的姑娘都有,被歪果仁撞上一两个“幼稚”的了也很常见。可若因此就觉得所有的中国妹子都幼稚,这枪躺得还真有点冤。
前面主页君有说过,貌似在一线城市的女生会相对独立一些。主页君就认识很多在上海生活的姑娘(不一定是上海本地人),工作生活打理得井井有条,经济独立,无论有没有老公/男票都活得挺充实。
然鹅,我又突然看到了一个老外专门怼上海妹子的帖子……
▲“上海妹子好幼稚好不可理喻啊!这是普遍现象吗?”(via )
发帖的人,狠狠吐槽了他的上海女友……
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I've been my for some time now. She’s a good and smart but her is . She is so , , , has a if she can't win an and even makes up and bends the truth, just to make her of seem .
我和个上海妹子交往有段时间了。她人挺好的,也挺机灵,但她真是太幼稚了。。。非常顽固,认死理,又爱钻牛角尖,如果某个事她吵不赢我,就会各种发脾气,还喜欢编造理由来标榜自己才是对的。
Is this for Asian girls? I have quite a few with girls and they say they are the same. Do these girls need a hand to argue back, or is it to just steer clear?
亚洲妹子都这样吗?我有些朋友也在和中国妹子交往,他们说情况都差不多。这些妹子们是真的想和你真出个所以然来吗?还是她们只认为自己才是对的、哪怕错了我也得说她对?
虽然不知道这汉子为啥要和女票吵架,也不知道他懂不懂其实很多架的意义不在于“吵”,而在于双方能不能各退一步、哄一哄对方……但至少,他肯定是不会哄女票的那种人了。
可就是这样一个莫名其妙的帖子,居然引起了许多老外在回复里跟风吐槽……
前方大量地图炮撕X,非战斗人员请迅速撤离……
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like the bitch. Most of the here get stuck at a age of a 7 year old.
感觉就是典型被宠坏了的上海biao子嘛!感觉这里很多人都停留在心理年龄7岁的阶段出不去了……
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yeah I agree with . More the " " rich-kid . She's used to her way.
同意楼上。中国很多富二代都有点公主病王子病什么的嘛。你女票也就是公主病得惯了罢了。(注:楼主有提到他的上海女友家很有钱)
You'll just have to it, or leave her. I doubt you could it.
你要么忍着,要么分手。想改掉你女票的毛病?我看难啊。
@dsugg:
All you have to do is watch the soap . Even if you dont speak you can see the girls act mad to get their way.
劝你还是多看点中国的肥皂剧。就算你不懂中文,总看得懂剧里那些妹子各种傻了吧唧的样子。
It’s not that they are it looks that way. I think they are that this is the way women need to to men. have a word for it - like ZO 4th tone. If you it for what it is you can live with it.
我倒觉得这些妹子们不是因为被“宠坏了”……好吧,虽然看上去挺像的。我觉着,她们好像是故意要这样,仿佛这样就能把男人套得死死的。上海话里面有个词——“作zuò”,就是这个意思。如果你能理解这些妹子们在“作”些啥了,你或许就能忍受了。
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, it’s 1st tone. in is "zuo 1st tone" is 作
“作”读zuō才对,是一声!
@dsugg:
my wife - you are - and she is at me for this post
好吧楼上的,你是对的。我刚跟老婆求证过(发音)了。话说,我发了这个帖子,她正冲我发脾气呢。
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I think it's the fact they are only child, and have never been told no. They grow up to their own way all the time. I come from a of 6 and had to kick some ass just to get my share at the table. At first I found them and , now it's much just .
这些妹子们大多是独生女,从小过得太顺心了吧。我来自个6口之家,(小时候)要挤到桌边吃饭都得和兄弟姐妹们动手动脚一番才行。中国的这些妹子们吧……起初你会觉得她们挺可爱挺天真的,但相处得多了,就会觉得她们好烦啊。
类似的留言还有挺多,总结一下无非以下几点——
1、中国妹子(或者上海妹子)幼稚,爱“作”
2、她们是独生子女,家境大多不错,从小被宠坏了
3、她们一直生活在温室里,日子过得太顺心,非常单纯天真
4、她们不觉得自己的幼稚和“作”哪里不好,反而认为这是栓牢男人的利器
5、受得了你就忍着,受不了你就躲远点。想改变她们?不可能。
……
……上海妹子这是招你惹你了,被你们贴上各种“幼稚”和“作”的标签。
好吧,咱们再来看一个帖子。
同样是老外对于中国妹子太幼稚了的抱怨……
▲“中国妹子是不是有一丢丢幼稚啊?”(via )
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Just a some seems very ........... So i will your as you ask it: Yes!
就问这么个问题,什么也不补充说明,很奇怪啊。。。好吧我还是会回答你的:是的!中国妹子是有一丢丢幼稚!
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This is a wrong !!
"a bit"!
楼主大错特错!!
什么叫有“一丢丢幼稚”?她们明明是很!幼!稚!
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To put it , YES, they are. But we are them . it took me a year to help my wife learn that the world was due to our baby a cold.
简单来说,中国妹子是挺幼稚的。不过我们可以改造她们啊~ 我就用了一年时间,让我太太从她的公主病里走出来。其实也很简单,只要她有了孩子,孩子再生个病感冒一下什么的,她就再也“作”不起来了。
这……我突然有点同情你的中国太太……
关于“中国妹子幼不幼稚”这个问题,主页君其实觉得挺奇怪的。
一方面,那些眼花缭乱的偶像剧与言情小说里,确实有许多傻白甜的“无脑”女主,撒着娇发着嗲和霸道总裁之流谈着腻腻乎乎的恋爱。她们时不时还闹个脾气“作”一下,让男主哄一哄,成为了感情里的迷之调味剂。
可另一方面,我们又能在现实生活中接触到大量独立而成熟的姑娘,她们理智又温和,待人接物也都很“正常”,离幼稚和公主病十万八千里远。
也许有人会说,很多姑娘是在喜欢的人面前才会“作”。男女朋友的关系毕竟有些特殊,任性一点也无妨。
也有人觉得,这就是老外的刻板印象,各种抹黑中国妹子罢了。
还有人认为说到“幼稚”,似乎20几岁的中国男人还要更幼稚一些,毕竟“妈宝”“巨婴”这种词不是凭空捏造的。
刻板印象?以偏概全?恶意抹黑?
还是……事实?
或许,不同的人也会有不同的答案吧。
你觉得中国20几岁的姑娘幼稚吗?20几岁的小伙子呢?欢迎留言分享你的看法!
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